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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2007, 03:34:59 PM » |
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Like my PR 0
Thats top 3 across the board for past 4 months for nearly ALL of its targeted keywords and phrases.
Talk conversions, and SERPs...that where the "value" is
Talk about sites with 100% organic and social links that are 37% deep linked. Not a paid backlink or swap in the bunch. Google recognizes all 465 backlinks to this site and since the site is not quite 5 months old...really not bad.
I know this site needs more links, but the "value" of relevant organic links can far out number and score a higher number of backlinks, than irrelevant devalued links from purchases, or swaps. Quality not quantity.
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2007, 03:45:36 PM » |
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I know that PR does not automatically mean that you rank, and I would of course not want links from crappy pages.
You don’t know why I use a PR value in my post, I won’t tell my strategies as it is something between me and my client.
I was simply asking for 3-way exchanges, something that I know work well, if done right.
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2007, 04:02:36 PM » |
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I agreed in the very first post, that it can 3 way linking can work. But do your clients know the risk? http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=66356&query=link+exchange&topic=&type3way links, although successfull right now, are in violation. Therefore they a in danger of being reported....devalued....losing the ability to transfer PR....and loss of SERP rank (due to sup results) .... I think risk like this is for your own sites, and well informed clients. No am not implying that you haven't informed them....but if you got busted and put my site in the penalty box, I would be pissed. How long before Google includes 3way links in the Algo? Beacuse....whether the work or not they are manipulation and thus risky business. Especially advertising for them in forums....you think webmasters don't report other webmasters? If so you are mistaken....when you start a deal like this via this type of venue, you have NO idea who you are dealing with....are your clients ready to accept those risks? Just food for thought, I really don't care how you get links....I take the high road and I like it that way. So maybe people who bend the rules get their 30 seconds of fame, but when a organically built site makes it to the top...its very solid. Just my thoughts...some webmasters would be taken in by your invite without this knowledge...I find that unacceptable. Buyer beware, thats all. |
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2007, 04:03:29 PM » |
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If a site is not riding high for it's keywords then whether it is a zero PR or a 9 matters not a single jot.
Agreed there... Even though I am looking for the next update :lol: Most peoples sites on here are low PR but they rank well and probably offer more relevance than a lot of high PR sites.... Would one take a PR 7 rubbish spam p * rn link? The reason they got the PR is probably due to a lot of pervs have the PR toolbar installed in there browser. Similar thing with Alexa and so forth. |
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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2007, 04:25:24 PM » |
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hehe I warned you... I suggest webguide it's at this point you say F**k you all They normally do the, mistake wasn't the page ranking by the way it was the But I don’t generally worry too much about the subject No one in this forum will be interested in 3 way link exchange with you, you see you might not care about the subject but the rest of us do. You see context relevant links are far more important to us then a generic link if we want those then we can get hundreds if not thousands of one way links from directories. I wish you and your client luck, you are of course welcome to stay the howling will go on for a bit longer, and their are plenty of good posts on the pro's and cons of three way linking and general link strategies. Perhaps you may wish to share yours. Ladies and gents didn't I say don't crucify the poor lad  |
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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2007, 04:34:16 PM » |
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I have no objection to webguide posting further - we are all part of a learning curve -he's doing something niave and foolish from his clients perspective. He has come to the right place to learn. Webguide - TIP is THE UK Seo forum - we have all graduated here from all over the Globe. We do not mind helping as long as you do not mind learning  |
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2007, 05:45:48 PM » |
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hehe I warned you... I suggest webguide it's at this point you say F**k you all They normally do the, mistake wasn't the page ranking by the way it was the But I don’t generally worry too much about the subject No one in this forum will be interested in 3 way link exchange with you, you see you might not care about the subject but the rest of us do. You see context relevant links are far more important to us then a generic link if we want those then we can get hundreds if not thousands of one way links from directories. I wish you and your client luck, you are of course welcome to stay the howling will go on for a bit longer, and their are plenty of good posts on the pro's and cons of three way linking and general link strategies. Perhaps you may wish to share yours. Ladies and gents didn't I say don't crucify the poor lad The reason for me not saying to much about subjects, PR etc.etc. is simply because that is something between me, my client and the webmaster who would want to do an exchange. I know that context relevant links is the way to go, but, you don’t know who my client is, from which sites the exchange would go etc.etc. I wont shout out who my client is, what sites are involved etc. And no, I dont say f** U all, I have no reason to. Even though I am a bit offended and I believe that you are way too suspicious. If I wanted to do a spammy sort of sillllions-links-deal I would sertanly not turn to an SEO forum. |
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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2007, 05:55:33 PM » |
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one last try, How would the webmaster know if he is interested in receiving one of your highly relevant links if he does not know the subject area. No one expected you to name the site straight out but it wouldn't have hurt you to say that your clients interest are in "fishing" or "poker" then those webmasters with fishing websites would have gone, great lets pm him to find out the details. Even though I am a bit offended and I believe that you are way too suspicious.
Not at all I'm trying to help you get your link exchange (even if it feels like bashing head on the brick wall) But you offer nothing but expect everything, this is after all to your clients benefit so perhaps it should be you who is making at least some of the moves. |
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2007, 06:04:15 PM » |
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Agreed Tim...  |
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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2007, 07:59:20 PM » |
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webguide I hope you stick around. Most would have taken flight after the first few replies. Thick skin is good and I always like to see ctabuk get hot around the collar when we start talking PR. Matter of fact, What happened to the PR update expected this month? Man I can’t wait! |
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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2007, 08:04:42 PM » |
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Sure, no problem. The TBPR export has begun here and there.
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2007, 09:22:29 PM » |
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Yeah, I have had one internal page that has a higher TBPR then other pages on the same site. It has been that way for a little while. Also, the company I work for went from a PR6 to PR7 about two weeks ago, but I have seen nothing since then.
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« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2007, 12:01:07 PM » |
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Very easy for domain sellers to manipulate... So I'm aware  |
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« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2007, 12:49:01 PM » |
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- Yes Daniboy - Pagerank and Alexa are like the genuine Rolex watches you find in your spam box. Tickerty BOO!!!! |
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