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« on: August 23, 2007, 07:57:05 PM »

Up until recently we have been a check\paypal only shop. We decided to move to credit cards because we were loosing out on the impulse shopper.

I have been using LinkPoint for the last two months, but on just about every other order we get a fraud alert for one reason or another. So far all of the orders have been legit, but we are wasting all kinds of time trying to figure out if the orders are in fact legit. How are some of the other store owners handling the fraud alerts? Do you just ignore them? Do you call the customer?
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2007, 08:36:57 PM »

do the fraud alerts tell you what the reason for the alert is for?
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2007, 08:48:45 PM »

They do for the most part.  Some times it is that the shipping address is not the same as the address on the card or that the name the customer gave was not exactly the same as it was stated on the card.  It so far has just been a bunch of little stuff, but it is just a pain to have to track down each card order to see what is up.  I mean how does a company who gets 100s of orders a day handle the overhead of fraud alerts?
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2007, 10:50:14 PM »

I was getting frustrated with that when I was running my online shop. The merchant services provider told me it was "catch 22", and to relax the rules of authorisation if I didn't want the alerts; and that the larger companies run on a slacker rule base - and take the (very few) fraudulent transactions on the chin!

The problem in the UK lays with the Post Office records, Electoral Roll and the address the card is issued to.

My address with the post office
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XX Any Road,
Highwoods,
Colchester
Essex
CO4 XXX
My address with the electoral roll is the same, but my address on my C/Card statement is
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XX Any Road,
Highwoods
Highwoods
Colchester
CO4 XXX

When ordering from a merchant with a strict rule base set that will flag fraud in the UK or even be refused if I put in my correct address. On a lower level rule base they would only check house numer and post code, and even lower still just card no, expiry and cvc.

In the past i've cards come through because of minor discrepencies in address like this, and just wave them through. If it's a different address I'd phone them, and it's usually a case of some one has just moved house, then I'd do it as a phone transaction.. But it did get me worried sometimes and I was waiting for that "Charge Back", but out of 350 or so transactions they were fine.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2007, 03:56:27 AM »

Thanks for the reply daniboy.  It helps.  I think we will relax the rules a bit.

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If it's a different address I'd phone them, and it's usually a case of some one has just moved house,

We have one order that we are struggling with right now.  The person is having the item delivered to a box vs their home address.  We have emailed them two times, but they have yet to respond.  I think we will follow the advice and give them a call.  

One thing about running an online business that has surprised me is that a ton of people who shop online don't check their email.  When we give them a call they will say "Oh, I hardly ever check my email.  I just get a bunch of spam."   :?
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2007, 08:32:21 AM »

Couple of things that I found sped up the process

only send goods to the same address as the card (this is becoming mandatory for some banks now)

State that as part of the process you will need dispatch notice (I set up a simple auto responder that fired an email when a parcel was ready to dispatch, it sent them the details and asked them to confirm the address) If their was card payment issues these could be sent then. By doing this and making sure its clear you will do this you are getting them to check their emails Wink

Just a warning I'm sure no one is stupid enough to do, never ever ask for a copy of the card by fax email or any other way. I once got asked to fax my card over to a company in the US because most credit card fraud comes from outside the US (which at the time was wrong but is right now) I oddly didn't and instead forwarded the email to the local sheriffs office in the company home town who while confused did agree to pay them a visit.  As I wasn't the only strange foreigner to do so can you guess what he found....

In the UK you have to be a licensed data protection officer to keep credit card records that includes pictures of them, while many businesses are totally innocent reasons to ask they can as I understand it be done for mail fraud in the US (not a lawyer based on conversation with one)

oddly enough I don't follow my own advice and will now happily send my card via fax, its a new natwest one completely black except for the chip and pin Wink no numbers, name can only be seen if you hold it to the light, no 3 digit security code on the back.

Banks are now working with the large payment vendors to create secure activiations requiring you to login in to your banks website or applet as part of the process not sure if this will minimise fraud though.
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